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2 things i would like to see
1) short tunnel Riot with removable snow flap
2) M146 with 2″ option
Snow flap are screwed on now . Easy to remove. My Alpha & HC I just drilled out the rivets . And screwed it on. So it was easier to take off . When playing in the deep Pow. On M146” do a dealer track swap. Think you have to pay 20% restocking fee.
Im not aware…is there a 2″ track available for the ALPHA skid?
M Blast had 2″ alpha.
No ZR 129
Yes there is.
JimR is correct. There are 2025 ZR 129 models.
They look good. I wish the black on black had all ghost lettering and not red.
You could always install side panels from a 2024 model.
I’m very disappointed with the mountain cat colour scheme if I’m paying for all the bells and whistles give me a all black option so I can do what I want not one ugly blue colour but two at least give me a black tunnel so I can swap out all that ugly dark blue why make this hard cat. Tip to the marketing team if your going to try trendy colour scheme give us a black or at least a cat green model we bleed green not two shades of blue. Engineering teem killed it love the sled keep pushing maybe talk to the marketing team.
Not sure what model M you are interested in, but there are all-black M sleds offered.
I think what Tyler is saying is the Black should be offered on the premium models. It looks like it is only offered on the 2 most base models. 600 154 es and 858 154 3.0. If customers had their choice to order like this: color, engine, shock package, track length and lug, and gauge package. The all black would outsell all the other colors combined me thinks. For my market the best seller would be All black 165 3.0 manual start with AC5S shocks and the G8 gauge.
Sorry A 600 129.
What’s IFP. On the 7000. Think it has a heated seat or power steering. Or is a stripO like last year. Really guys this is bad no snow. New sleds waiting to hit the snow and is the middle of January. And were all Cool the new sleds, LOL.
“IFP” refers to the shocks…Internal Floating Piston. This may have caught your eye as “new”, but they have been referenced as such for many years.
Yes, I believe the 2025 ZR 129 600 comes with 3 different shock packages. But, I think that will be better explained during the announcement.
Everyone wants to see a snowmobile manufacturer bring back a triple. I think the ZR 858 lineup – ZR, Sno Pro and ATAC – represent the best trail-oriented “triple” in the industry right now.
I like your thinking Bob. Although, it would be kinda cool to see a lightweight triple return…just not sure we’d see triple pipes fit underneath the new narrow bodywork? Best sound ever though!
Don’t forget the R-XC in the new 858
Looking to hear what the five-position AC5S shocks have to offer??
Not bad for computer generated photos….All are missing the lower quarter turn fastener on the side panel.
Is AC sandbagging? The 800 supposedly has 165 hp. 11% more amounts to around 183 hp. Now they are saying 165 hp class, maybe they are just being modest?
Well, the Turbo is in the 180 HP class, but everyone knows it puts out more than 200 so you do the math.
Jerry,
800 never made 165 hp, or even 160. Most of them put out 153 to 155 on the dyno. AC’s marketing department started off calling it a 160 hp class engine when doo released the 850, then magically bumped it to 165 hp class, despite no changes at all being made to the engine (they couldn’t market it by cc because they had to try and avoid the fact that both doo, and poo had 850 machines.)
Jim
The turbo is advertised as “200 class” by ac.
Not when it first came out.
The 800 motor, done on a dyno same day with the others 850’s was competitive. 156-160ish. Play the lowball game and it is 173. Call it 170 if you need to. The big boys claimed 120 mph at 6000 feet. Way faster than I will ever need.
Can Polaris Ride Command be installed on the G8? What mapping software comes with the G8?
Like the 121 ZR 400. That interests me. I don’t need big hp.
Test ride a blast when you get a chance
Kale, are you able to confirm the G8 gauge only come standard on the M Mountain Cat models?
Is the black/charcoal/red color 858 available with ATAC?
What are the rumors that the engine guru’s will be putting together a 650 twin using the lower crank case and that of the new 858 motor? I can wait.
I know all dynos are different, but I knew what the hp was on my zrs, firecat, crossfires,1100 turbo as new models before I even rode them. Now ac saying 125 class and a dyno shows 118 or ac says165 class but dyno says 155. In 2004 arctic claimed the new f6 was 118 and every dyno in 2004 from every magazine out there said the same. Same with 2010 800ho cat said 160 and that’s what they were. When it comes to sleds even if you dont need the power it’s all about bragging rights, especially cat riders. So if your buddy has a turbo 850 as cat guy you wanna know what the 858 puts out. Cat knows exactly what a dyno says about the 858 so whats the secret. And as for me I’ve been on a turbo 4 stroke since 2014 and in 25 I dont want another procross as my 22 thundercat was going to be the last procross I’d buy.So I’d be putting my money down on a catalyst 4stroke turbo. But we dont know if that will ever happen cause cat says nothing about it. And if I knew that cat had no plans of a 4stroke turbo catalyst I would buy a 25 858. Mabey cat will release the 26 models soon.
Jason. The last dyno on the 6 was 124, not 118.
With all the cats being coupled the last couple yrs and they hiped coupling on cats, now they went non coupled. What the reason???????
To couple the rear arms or not to couple? That is the question. Cats flipped on that many times since 1966. Each generation using what they learned on the track. Each version having merits. Throw in longer travel every few years and I would assume that rocking horse issues would increase and require different solutions. Blows my mind thinking about 1962 and the engines in the rear on the tunnel, 1966 the engines low and down in the pan, 1976 Pantera bulkhead the engines moved a smidge towards the tunnel and almost framed in aluminum panels, giving a peak at modern construction, new slightly longer travel skid but still uncoupled then the chassis is abandoned 3 years later. Cost verses performance verses market trends and sales etc. I guess. Point is as sleds evolve to couple or not to couple appears to be the eternal engineering debate as well as where the engine goes.